Nuker Guide - (from an Asura nuker)

[-Tiamat-]

Disclaimers - This guide assumes you at least reasonably familiar with the game. Not designed for someone totally new to the game, but rather for someone wanting to make a second character.

This is probably the least played class in 9dragons. This is also probably the most powerful class in terms of sheer damage. To give you an idea, at RL10 I criticalled my strongest nuker at the time during rage, and did 12,056 damage. Why doesn't everyone play nukers then? Simple. If you build a nuker wrong or level the wrong skills you won't do enough damage, you will get owned in pvp, you will level incredibly slow, and you will quit your character.

So I wanted to write this to try and help people realize the full potential of nukers. If you want to 3 hit kill orange mobs, be able to grind on dark red mobs, do 5 digit damage, take down other players who are 20-30 levels higher than you in pvp, one shot kill players the same level, and use the least expensive gear to do it, then read on my friends, nukers are for you.

First things first, you have to pick a clan to join. Nukers all use the same weapon regardless of clan (bracers), so don't pick a clan based on its weapons. However, some clans can offer additional benefits. Other clans have stronger nuker communities. I'll go over the clans and their pros and cons to help you get a better idea of what you want.

Wu Tang
Clan Buff - none
Nuker Name - Black Tortoise
Nuker Community - *
Cool Factor - ***
The good thing about Wu Tang is that there are lots of high level plays in this clan. Which means lots of strong bands looking for nukers. Nukers, especially after FD1, do extremely well in pvp, and good bands are always looking for a few to join. Being as how there are almost no nukers in Wu Tang, you would have an easy time getting in. This is because Wu Tang has no extra clan buff. The Wu Tang decos are decent lookings for the most part. Their low level nukes pretty silly, but some of the higher level ones look alright. They shoot blue lightning.

Shao Lin
Clan Buff - increase attack rating
Nuker Name - Exorcist Monk
Nuker Community - ****
Cool Factor - ****
The attack rating buff helps, but it's not as advantageous to a nuker as it would be to a warrior. It improves the attacks, but you'll see that at the amounts of damage that nukers do, it isn't a crucial bonus. There is a good amount of nukers in Shao Lin it seems. Not a large amount of players over-all though. There is only one real high level band in Asura. From what I've seen their attacks look pretty cool. Their LF looks a little silly, and they are a male only band, which contributes to their lack of players. They shoot what looks like a golden four sided spade design and/or a golden orb.

League of Beggars
Clan Buff - additional HP
Nuker Name - Dragon Beggar
Nuker Community - *****
Cool Factor - *
The HP buff is decently helpful. As nukers any extra hp is always a good help as we tend to have low HP anyway, and take heavy damage if we get hit. There are large numbers of nukers in the League. Some of the most famous as well, BachLong and now_or_never on Asura. CTK is a hybrid, but plays it as a nuker, and is probably one of, if the thee, most famous BoT character in Asura. There are a few high level bands in the League as well, but since there are lots of nukers, getting in could be tricky. The decos look silly, the meditation looks silly, the LF looks silly. The nukes are green balls with leaves coming off, and the shooting stance looks like someone about to get bach-handed. To buff themselves then turn in a circle and do a hip-thrust...very odd clan.

Sacred Flower
Clan Buff - increased dodge
Nuker Name - Mistress of Spirits
Nuker Community - **
Cool Factor - * (if youre a guy) **** (if you're a girl)
The increased dodge buff is kinda useful but kinda useless at the same time. If you're a good nuker, the enemies shouldn't ever get that close, and in PvP it's not even close to enough to do anything effective anyway. No real high level Flower bands, maybe one. I don't see many flower nukers around. It is an all girl, which is cool if you're a girl...kinda weird if you're a guy. The decos look good. The nukes seem to shoot some kind of purple haze with tarrot cards or something?

Brotherhood of Thieves
Clan buff - increased defense
Nuker Name - Armored Bandit
Nuker Community - **
Cool Factor - ***
The increased defense buff is great. Nukers get a defense buff already, so to have an addition one is really nice. As nukers our penalty in on STR, which provides defense, so we naturally have low defense, which means we take lots of damage per hit, so yea, great nuker buff. There are tons of hybrids and healers (due to them having the strongest healer weapon) in the Brotherhood so you'll always have someone to buff and heal you, which is nice. Because most go hybrid or even healer, not many nukers, espcially at high levels. Only a few real high level bands and almost no nukers, so getting in would be a breeze. Their decos are kind of interesting. Mostly animal skins, so if you like that look, they are your band. For their nukes they fire meteors...right on.

Heavenly Demon
Clan Buff - none
Nuker Name - Storm Demon
Nuker Community - *
Cool Factor - *****
Yet again, almost zero nukers in this clan because of the lack of a clan buff, coupled with the fact that it has the second strongest warrior weapon. However, there are many, many high level players and bands dying for good nukers. As far as looking good, I gotta hand it to this clan. The decos looks really cool/menacing, the LF looks really cool, and their nukes look the coolest by far. They gather in Fire and release and flaming orbs at their enemies. Their home map is a little to dreary for my tastes, but it fits the clan's back story pretty well.


Alright, hopefully know you're made up your mind, so onto the first stages of the character build. LS1 to OC1. From LS1 just put everything you get into str and buy your clans main weapon. Just play like a warrior until you get the chance to choose your role, since you get to redo all your stats at that point anyway.

At OC1 you become a nuker, grats to you, now everything changes. Agree to re-arrange your chi, and here's where to put it:

STR - 12 (this lets you use rc & fd relics when you're ready for them)
ESS - Enough to use your weapon. Set it at about 20 and add 1 point per level. This should keep you up to date for your weapons, and give you enough VE use your nukes effectively.
WIS - Everything else goes right here!!!
DEX - 12 (same as STR)
CON - 12 (this leaves your hp a little low, but the points are better spent elsewhere; use relics, elixers, and whatever buffs you can get to increase this)



More to come! In part 2 I'll discuss:

-Which nukes to buy and level, and which not to
-What buffs to buy and level up
-What defense shields are, and why to worship them
-Info about bracers, why NOT to refine them past +2
-What kind of gear you will need as a nuker
-What epithet to use during grind/pvp
-My suggestions for where to put your money
-What nukes to use for PvP and why
-What my favorite pizza topping is
-And More!!!

If you're reading this as you make a nuker, buy the OC slow nuke and a pair of basic bracers, and level the heck out of that nuke, and only that nuke. Trust me, you'll be amazed how powerful it gets so quickly. That should hold you until you get to the next good nuke, and til I update.

[dndhatcher]

I hate it when they leave you hanging for the sequel. I am already at RC with a sexy looking demon nuker girl. My slow nuke is at cheng 6 and my para is cheng 5, what next? :p


btw - did you also have a character named -bahamut-?


Notes:
I am 99% sure CTK is a hybrid, Ill find out tonight and edit post tomorrow.
*edit* yep - he is a hybrid
Arara is a in/famous nuker you could use, there are alot of Demon nukers out there. Demon nuker seems to be a common secondary character.

Saber and sword are almost identical and not the most powerful weapons, BoT with spear and axe are. Saber and sword just have more cool factor.

[0sakura0]

this tip so nice, ty alot

[dhrddm]

Begger - Dragon Begger
SF - Mistress of Spirits

[-Tiamat-]

Alright, well welcome back. Thanks to everyone for the extra information; I added it in the edits. I did have a character named Bahamut for about three days, but deleted him to make Tiamat. I actually first started playing as white clan. I had a white clan warrior in Wu Tang named Tienshen who was master of the original Rising-Dragons. Still have a Wu Tang healer that is SM10, but I don't ever play it anymore. Aside from those three, I also played as Rajarakuru, who got deleted for my current nuker, Zeratul. If anyone ever wants to pm me in game for advice, I'm almost always on -Zeratul- (demon) and sometimes on -Tiamat- (brotherhood)

Anyway, enough about me, lets get to it!

So you're a nuker...now what? After you get your stats redistributed the next thing to do is update your weapon mastery points. All nukers, no matter what clan, use bracers (more on bracers later). So put all your mastery points into bracers until you max them out. Lots of people put the extra points into other weapons, however, it's been said that there will be advanced mastery later, so I would recommend just letting the extra ones accumulate. Then just head down the local marketplace, or look around hefei if you're a deal hunter, and grab yourself some bracers.

"This nuke, or not this nuke, that is the question."
This is the part that wastes a lot of people's time. Nukes can take a while to train, and if you train the wrong one, you're just wasting time. If you train with manuals...and you should ALWAYS train with manuals...you will be wasting money and any x3,4,5 manuals you might find/buy, which are getting rarer and more expensive all the time. Below is a list of the nukes you should be training:

To Train ASAP
OC Slow Nuke - main damage nuke until FD bleed
OC Damage Shiled - only shield until FD (saves 600hp at max)
OC Wisdom Buff - boosts your attack power (25+ WIS at max)
OC Defense Buff - crucial, boosts your defense dramatically (240 at max)
RC Paralyze Nuke - only para nuke, vital for PvP
RL Fast Nuke - .5 sec cast, good damage, key for PvP
FD Bleed Nuke - incredible damage when maxed, devasting in PvP
FD Damage Shield - hp saved for 2x the ve (saves 1500hp at max)
GB Damage Shield - not sure on stats, but you can actually target this buff, meaning you can cast it on other people to protect them

(note: more on PvP coming, don't worry)

To Avoid
- The return 25% kung fu shield does not work at this point.
- Avoid any close range nuke attacks (believe there are two), you're asking to get killed.
- Don't train the OC bleed, cause it will distract you from training the slow and para.
- Don't train the FD slow, because it doesn't do hardly any damage even at cheng 10, it will distract you from the fast nuke and bleed nuke, and your OC slow is more damaging
- There is an instant cask nuke...and it's debated whether to train it or not. I saw don't because it will slow down your slow/para leveling, and your .5 sec cast nukes does much more damage. It's not a bad nuke, but I think it is a waste of time.

Quick notes on nukes
- The .5 sec and instant cast nukes can cause charging enemies to stop charging for some reason.
- The FD bleed nuke's casting times increases at each cheng, keep this in mind right after you level it up.
- All the ranged nukes have a range of 16, except the para nuke, which is range 10

What the heck are damage shields???
Okay, probably a burning question for some, because most never knew that Nukers had such a skill. Damage shields are like buffs. The first one you get you can cast on yourself and it blocks a certain amount of kung fu damage (other player's attacks, certain mobs attacks). This one has a one minute re-cast time. So until either one minute expires, or your shield breaks under the attacks, you will block the listed amount of damage.

The second shield works a little differently. It saves a certain amount of HP loss by takes twice the damage to your VE. This means that if you have the shield on, instead of losing, say 20 HP from getting hit , you will lose 40VE from getting hit instead. Since nukers have tons of VE and not much HP, you can see the value here. This nuker has no cooldown either, so you can keep casting it over and over, even during PvP. However, if all your VE is used up from this, you can't attack, you can't LightFoot, so basically you better be fast and run and med, or you die.

From what i'm told the third shield works like the first one, except that you target it and cast it on other team-mates to protect them as well. Unfortunately I don't know much about this last shield.

Bracers
Ahh the weapon of the Nuker. The nice thing about a nuker is that our weapons really don't matter all that much. I've fought for 15-20 minutes before without even realizing my bracers weren't on. Our nukes can do around 4k damage at RC levels, so the extra 69-90 damage is kind of like a rain drop in a waterfall. Some people will disagree with me on what I say next, but as nukers, we don't even need to refine our weapons, maybe +2 tops. Refining past +2 adds an extra 100-200, 350 damage tops, at the cost of 275-300k per BE now. Sure it is useful, and if you can afford it go ahead, but you do not NEED to refine them. At 300k per BE, you won't see me doing it. The big benefit in bracers comes from the stat advantages. Buy bracers that give you extra VE, or HP, extra defense, WIS boost, or speed is the best! Don't buy bracers that boost weapon damage, buy ones that boost chi kung damage by a percentage (%).

However, it's not all cheap. To be really effective, especially in PvP, you need as much speed as you can get. Wan Daye Bracers give this to you. They are very expensive to make, but very worth it. Get Wan Daye RL bracers. They add min and max wep damage, which is alright, and boost a few other stats, but they add 8% speed! Might not sound like a lot, but wait and see. Speed is crucial to getting enough distance between you and your enemy to attack again before they reach you (especially in PvP). These bracers will last you until SM4 (since weapon damage doesn't add much anyway). There are FD Wan Daye Bracers, but the speed addition is the same, so you'd just be throing away 5 Lv3 elixers and 10BE, as opposed to the 5 Lv2 elixers and 5Be from RL Wan Daye. At SM4 you can get SM Wan Daye bracers that add, amoung other things, 25% speed. Get these if you can, they cost like 5 Lv4 elixers, and 20Be, but man...25%! If you are lucky enough to get Wan Daye bracers...for Pete's sake...don't be stupid and try and refine them to +5 or +6 and break them. Refining is risky enough, but refining weapons that don't even need it is just stupid. Not to mention refining multi-million dollar weapons that don't need it...you'd have to be high. Don't be whack, stay off crack.


Alright well I'll be back later with "Part 3" to finish us off with:

- Reccomendations on where to put your cash
- Elixers and Adv Med/Steps
- Relics
- Nuker clothing and equipment
- My favorite pizza topping

For a quick preview of next article's information...

Get adv med/steps boosts your hp/ve/speed/attack/defense/dodge...all good stuff. Get slotted clothing and speed relics from Nanchong/Hangzhou (tips on how later), or get them pre-made in Hefei; usually prices are reasonable. 10% speed clothing for us is better than Wind and Lightning clothing, trust me! Don't waste money on 4 pocket clothes unless they have two slots, which no one can afford anyway. PM me as -Zeratul- I usually have some extra speed clothes lying around. Get any relics that add to you CON, WIS, or ESS. I have some spares of those too. Get elixers! They can help boost all stats without wasting any pocket/slot space. The added STR can help defense, DEX can help dodge, etc. They all help us a lot. Pepperoni.

I'll get more in depth into all that later. Take care guys, and good nuking!

[dndhatcher]

OH good, as long as pepperoni refers to the pizza topping and not clothing Ill keep reading...

[dhrddm]

The VE shield you get at RL4 and not at FD levels (and it saves 1650 HP at cheng 10). The dmg shield, WIS and self def buff max at RL4.

[emTienNu]

tiamat's a dork but we gotta love his awesome nuker guide =D

EM LOVES YOU TIAMAT!!!!

[-| Norfeus |-]

Hey man,, very thanks about this help...but i have some questions about nukers bulding.
My nuker is a shaolin FD1 i have build he so:
ESS :20
WIS: 250
CON: 15
--> But my great damage is only 4500 by the slow skill cheng 9. All guys kill me in Blood Paind or in Duel at Heifel, :(. How you can to have 12,000 damage??? What mistake i make?
--> What is the mean about manuals of the clan?
--> About refine your weapon? +3,+4 ou more is no good?
--> I have the 3.º Meditation and Dog, when i take the other?

Greetings
Norfeus

[tihoa]

1) your essence is way too low. you don't even have enough to use the weapon at your level (which is considered the bare minimum)
2) you need to learn how to use your shields
3) train your pvp instant cast skill
4) manuals are items you can buy from a npc in your training ground to increase the amount of skill exp you get per cast
5) nukers do not need weapons except wan daye's SM bracers. those will be the most useful to you.
6) get basic shaolin meditation to cheng 10 and learn great arhat's meditation
7) to get high damage get your FD1 bleed skill to cheng 10 and refine your weapon as well but the refinement is a bit of a waste.

[dndhatcher]

Essense is way to low. Check out the essence requirement for FD1 bracers.

The slow nukes isnt all that good for PvP. The FD1 bleed nuke is your crazy damage power kill nuke, but it is too slow if you are already under attack. You need the faster casting PvP nuke for general use (you get at RL10, I beleive)

You need speed! You need 2 slotted clothes and a wan daye weapon and speed relics if you can get them. Being able to run away from melee until you are far enough to get a fast nuke off, then run away again is critical.

Refining a Wan Daye RL bracer to +2 will give you speed and a good weapon, but you will need more essence to use it.

[Shirai Ryu]

mmmmm, you make me want to re-roll.

[dndhatcher]

mmmmm, you make me want to re-roll.

Until they work out the buff training, I wouldnt do it. The one nuker shield is the slowest levelling skill in the game.

[-Tiamat-]

I guess I should have clarified about the ESS. When I saw enough use your weapon, I mean enough to use a weapon that is at your current Lv. With ESS at 20, and WIS at 250, that prolly puts you around FD level. It's no wonder your damage is still low, because ESS governs your base damage too.

It seems kind of like A x B = damage. If A is the WIS then it multiplies by the ESS. For if you wis is 250 and ess is 20 the damage is 5,000. If ess is 40 the damage is 10,000. Those aren't exact numbers, just something to show kinda how it seems to work.

As far as PVP goes, here's what you want. All speed clothes. I don't care if you hat boosts your attacking rating a bit, or your wb add some damage, everything needs to be at least +10% speed. If you can't easily out-run a wairror, then you'll die...a lot. Especially at lower levels. You want your total speed to at least be over 70%, 90-100% is best, but usually you'll need SM WD bracers for that.

Train your instant cast nukes for PVP too. I know earlier I think I said not to, but I got a lot at pvp since then, haha. The RC instant cast nuke, and FD slow instant cast should probably get trained. Some disagree, but it's a quick 500 damage you can hit the enemy with on the run, takes just an instant, then when you get further you can cast something more substancial.

If you have snuck up on your enemy, of if you can get off the first shot safely, get some distance and fire the FD bleed nuke. This usually does anywhere from 750 up to 2000 pvp damage depending on the level you're fighting and their ck defense. After they are aware of you, switch to using just the RL .5 second nuke, anything slower and they'll catch you before you can complete it. You can cast FD slow and RC instant cast on the run fairly easily and usually get some good damage out of it. You can do without the instant cast nukes and just use FD bleed and RL .5 sec cast and still do just fine, so if you didn't train them, don't sweat it.

Remember to use your shields in PVP too. With the VE shield you can keep re-casting it, but be careful, if you keep using it, the enemy can drain ALL your ve, and then you're kinda screwed. You can't LF, can't attacking, just go to peace mode and hope your have an item or epi that regenerates VE on. So far when it's happened to me I've been able to out-run anyway and get away probably 99% of the time, only one person ever caught me retreating.

Also I have a new record for the most damage I did to an NPC. I did 16,157 damage to a deva king yesterday. I'm so proud.

Nuker's rule!

[dhrddm]

damage is not a multiply of ess and wis. It's the ess base damage + bracer and items damage + skill damage + buff dmg + (skill cheng + 1) * wis (that's 100% for the low level slow nuke... i think it's the same for all the other nukes too).

[dndhatcher]

Ess adds somethign like 4 points of base damage for each point of ess.

Wisdom is multiplied by an escalating factor on the cheng of the skill, and that factoring is different on each skill.

For example (this is approximate from my memory of when I tested it):
First bleed nuke at cheng 1, adding 1 wis adds 1 damage
First bleed nuke at cheng 2, adding 1 wis adds 3 damage
First bleed nuke at cheng 3, adding 1 wis adds 5 damage
First bleed nuke at cheng 4, adding 1 wis adds 7 damage
First bleed nuke at cheng 5, adding 1 wis adds 10 damage
First bleed nuke at cheng 6, adding 1 wis adds 13 damage

Also higher wisdom escalates the damage. Increasing wisdom from 130 to 140 increased the damage nore than increasing from 110 to 120.

[dhrddm]

you should have wisdom to figure that out. :p

[enzo92191]

wow this helped me out alot i got to RC 10 in a matter of a few days thanx alot o and i almost forgot to ask about where to kill : / i have been kiling tigers since OC 1 and basically lvled there but mobs are to hard to kill escpecially with low health and def : / so any help would be nice : )

[-| Norfeus |-]

Hey Friends,, thx about the help...in forum ok

But i need a little more help, about my build of the nuker? is ok? now i am in FD6, and i have my attributes so: STR=8;ESS=43;WIS=250;CON=15 and DEX=8. I maximize my FD Bleed to cheng 10, but with my clothes and relic and bracer i no have more damage, :(. i greate damage are in 7500 with the FD bleed, but no more,,,why friend? Why you in RL10 have more and I and FD6 no can 10,000 at less. Hel me friend i like play the game, but is to hard for me with the lower damage... I tranning hard but i no see evolution.. :(

[dndhatcher]

It will depend on the mobs you attack, you should do more damage to white and below. You wont get as much damage on Red mobs.

Thats pretty much peak damage in the game, no one can do more without being a higher level (level difference affects damage dealt).

Most of us get along doing 2-3K damage at FD level so I dont think being a nuker with 7.5K is bad at all. Make sure you hit the mobs with slow nukes first so you have time to get a couple bleeds off. (get a slow nuke up to high cheng also, not just bleed).

[-Tiamat-]

Having more ESS boosts your damage as well. That is something that seems to be lacking in your build. Most just keep it up with the WIS.

You can use other things to raise your damage. You can get your WIS way past 250. Adding Elixers thought Lv4 will boost your WIS by 14. Bad Karma relics will increase your WIS by +9 for the RC relics, and +12 for the FD relics, so that's +21 more with both. When you max your buff that's another +25 WIS. So far that's an extra +60 WIS.

Grinding near, or with a hybrid helps too. Hybrid buffs will add +15 at max, making it +75 WIS. If you have a premium package that adds +10 as well. Now we're at +85. You can also get the +5 WIS buff at the hermit, making it +90 WIS. If you got the cake from the Christmas quest that is +10 also. That would be an extra 100 WIS after all is done if you get everything I mentioned. I forgot about the WD seal which adds +5 to all attributes, giving you +105 WIS. So your base WIS might be 250, but you can boost it to 355.

You can also use relics, elixers, and buffs to boost up your ESS as well.

Even with all that said, you're still doing 7,500 damage, that is still a good deal of damage.

[dhrddm]

Your ve shield alos needs a fair amount of ess...

[boilerroomjat]

nice calculation tiamat...but sadly all the sentence you begin with starts with "If"...What about "If we don't have it?"...

[-Tiamat-]

I quote would have been a big help here, since I'm not really sure what you're referring too.

However, I imagine 'if' you don't have one or more of the items I mentioned...you would either subtract that from my total, or don't add it to the total as you calculate what yours would be off of my numbers.

You pretty much have to have at least some of those available to you, or you're doing something very wrong.

I would also note that if this is your first character you might have a pretty rough time. You really need a hybrid or healer to feed your nuker gold and items.

[boilerroomjat]

600hp...does it mean as long as the damage taken is below 600hp the shield won't break? or it saves 600hp and all the damage taken will be deducted from there? plan to make a nuker...your guide is superb by the way...

[dndhatcher]

The shield absorbs the first 600 damage.

[Broosser]

The shield absorbs the first 600 damage.

and has a long recast. It levels fairly quickly to cheng 10 through normal use, too. I'm RL-6 now on my nuker, started it at RC-8 (or so) by changing my warrior into a nuker. Through normal use it is at cheng 9.

As a back-up, at RL-4 you get the VE sheild. Cheng 1 absorbs 300 damage and has a 1 second recast. But it levels SOOOO slow (slowest in game at 0,01 per cast at cheng 1).

[dndhatcher]

The first shield has a one minute recast so if you take more damage than the shield during that minute you are in trouble.

The VE shield also burns VE to offset the damage so you can end up low on VE if you are not careful.

[boilerroomjat]

can i do essence = level? cause if i just raise it to weapon requirements, my essence will be low and will have to meditate very often...i'm oc 9 btw...

p.s. i've always knew that nukers are strong but never knew they were this strong!!!

[dndhatcher]

can i do essence = level? cause if i just raise it to weapon requirements, my essence will be low and will have to meditate very often...i'm oc 9 btw...
Of course you can. The question is will it be more efficient. Wisdom = hits more often, ess = more attacks between meds. If you miss less you need less attacks to kill. Its a balancing act you have to determine for your playing style. You should not need an ess over 50 until your wis is max.

[boilerroomjat]

kk thanks...never missed on orange...red not that often...its fun to 2 - 3 hits on red...

and btw whats the price on 2 slot clothes,including hats pants shirt wb? just the normal 2 slot 3 pockets...no extra boost or anything...

[tihoa]

they use to cost about 500k a piece from other players but you often only need to spend 300k or so to get a 2 slot one from the npc.

[boilerroomjat]

where can i buy it from the npc...???

[Uncle.Buck]

where can i buy it from the npc...???

Any of the "Drapery" NPCs sell clothing and there is a certain rate at which they will sell slotted clothing. So go to the NPC and buy a jacket, check it to see if it has slots, if not sell it back and buy again. The theory is that by the time you spend 300k you should have got a 2 slot jacket from the NPC. If you are real lucky you will get it sooner and spend less.

[boilerroomjat]

kk thanks...so thats why i got a 2 slot staff before...was wondering about it the whole day...but which has the three pockets?

[Uncle.Buck]

2 or 3 pocket depends on which jacket/pants you choose from the NPC. You should be able to see that in the description of the item before you even buy.

[boilerroomjat]

is it true that the kung fu exp 2x if your hp is blinking?

what does Absorb 300 Yang attribute dmg for 30s means? same as the oc shield?

[dndhatcher]

Yang isnt implmented yet. I beleive warriors will get a yang damage smash that will ignore your other 2 shields eventually.

[dhrddm]

is it true that the kung fu exp 2x if your hp is blinking?



Yes. But ONLY attacking techniques and NOT buffs, shields, heals and passives.

[boilerroomjat]

ok...i'm now rc 10...so where is the best training spot? white clan by the way...

[dhrddm]

lightning disciples or the venomous blood monks

[Nosoche]

lightning disciples or the venomous blood monks

I would advise against that, especially blood monks, for a few reasons. Both have ranged attacks which means you will get hit whether you run or not, and blood monks have a 'silence' debuff, which disables all chi kung for a few seconds. I thought it was annoying as a healer, but I can't imagine not being able to attack at all...

[dhrddm]

sry... wrong topic... i thought it was about healers...

for nukers: drunken swordman and frozen flowers ( the flowers are a bit dangerous at first but at RC10-11 they die like flies). After you got bored with all the Death Valley mobs (confucianists are a pain in the a**) go in Jinan/Datong and kill small/big brown bears (DON'T ATACK THE normal BROWN BEARS!!!). After those, head for the toad demons. At high FD, low SM levels you can go to kill the high SM Evil Zombies in NC or HZ. Deva Kings (GB+) are also a easy kill because they move with the speed of a snail...

[Nosoche]

I have a question about equips... obviously if I go pvp I will wear speed gear... but what about when you're just grinding? What should you use then?

[Wazza]

I have a question about equips... obviously if I go pvp I will wear speed gear... but what about when you're just grinding? What should you use then?

Nukers best friend in PVP or PVE is speed. Any equip that adds damage will be minimal compared to your currrent damage anyway. You do a lot of running so the faster you can do it the better.

[dndhatcher]

Now that the nuker platforms are disabled, nukers need speed for PvE also.

You need to learn to see everything around you and dance around the periphery of mob areas avoid aggro and moving around extra aggro until you have time to change focus on the new aggro mob.

[Druegan]

I've been having fun lately with my baby nuker off and on..

A couple days ago, she was rc9, and I decided, just for grins, to take her to the Zombies in HZ.. Amazingly, I could kill them fairly easily! So I did the grind there till RL4, when I could outfit my Wan Daye's bracer..

Now I'm over at the Deva Kings, and having a grand old time.. lol

It's intensely amusing to be pwning mobs that are 40+ levels above me.

And, it's gratifying as all heck not to have to mess with Datong except every few levels for quests.. Plus, it doesn't get any better than getting level 3 elixir drops at RC9... lol

Tons of fun

[Wazza]

It's intensely amusing to be pwning mobs that are 40+ levels above me.

Tons of fun

If it' s amusement you are after then all well and good. If you are trying to level though just check how much you miss the zombies as there are far quicker kills for a nuker in Datong at that level.

[Nosoche]

If it' s amusement you are after then all well and good. If you are trying to level though just check how much you miss the zombies as there are far quicker kills for a nuker in Datong at that level.

I know quite a few people that go to the Shaolin Base and grind on the tiger that spawns. I tried it myself for a bit, and I got around 5% per kill, which was good. Around RC levels, you can kill the tiger fairly easily. However, drops are horrible so I grind on different mobs.

[Broosser]

That's ok for leveling nukes, but for actual exp gain it kinda sucks. But around the FD levels with bleed at cheng 10, it turns into a better exp spot than toads in Jinan.

[darklord13]

sry... wrong topic... i thought it was about healers...

for nukers: drunken swordman and frozen flowers ( the flowers are a bit dangerous at first but at RC10-11 they die like flies). After you got bored with all the Death Valley mobs (confucianists are a pain in the a**) go in Jinan/Datong and kill small/big brown bears (DON'T ATACK THE normal BROWN BEARS!!!). After those, head for the toad demons. At high FD, low SM levels you can go to kill the high SM Evil Zombies in NC or HZ. Deva Kings (GB+) are also a easy kill because they move with the speed of a snail...

what lvl can grind in brown bear?..............

[dhrddm]

i began at RC12 but stay at the flowers till they turn green. They are safer than the bears...

[Nosoche]

On the topic of training, if you dont know where to train, I usually try going to areas where other people are around 2 levels higher than me. Sometimes though, this doesn't always work.

[manhunters55]

love the guide add jordanp5

[K!ller]

This guide is so nice. I can now kill red mobs 30 levels higher than me in 2 hits. I am OC8 and I hit 3-4k. Any tips to increase the damage? thanks.

[tabii]

such a nice guide, tks alot

[9thDragon]

agreed

[dhrddm]

This guide is so nice. I can now kill red mobs 30 levels higher than me in 2 hits. I am OC8 and I hit 3-4k. Any tips to increase the damage? thanks.

reach FD1 :p

[K!ller]

Hehe, my nuker is doing great :). I almost maxed my slow nuke, and right now I can hit over 7000. I also got the first Killer epithet at RC3, and yeah...nukers rule :). I am killing FDs in PVP at RC6 :D thats the life.

[Wazza]

lol my nuker is SM 5 now and has a combat record of 0-0. Unsure when I will venture into BP but hopefully I will surprise some people

And you think 7000 is good.......just wait and see :)

[K!ller]

lol my nuker is SM 5 now and has a combat record of 0-0. Unsure when I will venture into BP but hopefully I will surprise some people

And you think 7000 is good.......just wait and see :)
yeah but its at RC3 Xd. Alright, lets see how I do after I get the FD Bleed. I have a question though, since ou get the VE shield at RL, woldnt itmake sense to have a lot into essence? otherwise you die anyway?

[dhrddm]

only if you are able to level it... good luck!

[K!ller]

only if you are able to level it... good luck!

Okay thank you. I really hope they can put key jamming back :). I remember leveling my heal from cheng 3 to 7 in 64 hours straight with 2 healers healing VE.
Hehe, those were the days.

[K!ller]

Oo sorry for double post, but anyone have any luck with 3 pocket 2 slot clothing? Any tips for buying? I am a nuker and I am really slow, hehe. I am on bardo, so if you have any tips or extra ones laying aorund, please PM me. TheArrow :)

[Wazza]

Oo sorry for double post, but anyone have any luck with 3 pocket 2 slot clothing? Any tips for buying? I am a nuker and I am really slow, hehe. I am on bardo, so if you have any tips or extra ones laying aorund, please PM me. TheArrow :)

Go to the map that sells 3 pocket clothing, Nanchang (sp) for white clans. Buy the hat, pants and shirt over and over again until you get one with 2 slots. The 2 slot rate is actually pretty high. I think I spent less than 100k to get all 3 items.

[K!ller]

Go to the map that sells 3 pocket clothing, Nanchang (sp) for white clans. Buy the hat, pants and shirt over and over again until you get one with 2 slots. The 2 slot rate is actually pretty high. I think I spent less than 100k to get all 3 items.

I got the hat, but not the shirt and the pants. Anyone on bardo have extra?

[umvirusalert]

Ive been trying to get slotted speed clothes from COF and have had no luck whatsoever and then somebody shouted that they are selling female 1 slot speed jacket for 1.5mil !!!!!! The prices have rocketed...last time i checked you could get 2 slot for like 500k.

[umvirusalert]

I also have a question...which of the Wan Daye bracers are worth making?

I looked at the stats offered and think that the RL and GB are the ones to go for...

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9097/wandayebracerswq0zt7.jpg

[tihoa]

i would say to ignore the RL ones. they're not needed that badly. SM if you're desperate but try to just get the GB ones if you can.

[K!ller]

I have more tips. For the High RC - FD nuker, train east of Yueshan village in Nanchang, the mobs are really really slow, and they drop mansion passes!!

[K!ller]

I also have a question...which of the Wan Daye bracers are worth making?

I looked at the stats offered and think that the RL and GB are the ones to go for...

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9097/wandayebracerswq0zt7.jpg

I would rather have the 25% of the SM ones, I think. That and mansion boots, 45% total, 10% clothes and hat, that is 75% already.

Wait how are you supposed to get over 100%? >S

[umvirusalert]

Slotted Mansion/Wild Tower Boots ? :D

*drools over 4 slot wild tower boots*

[-Tiamat-]

To get over 100% speed:

(new) Deco's now have 4 slots = +20% speed
SM WD bracers = +25% speed (but GB are better weapons)
2 slot hat = 10%
2 slot jacket = 10% (15% if two slot speed jacket)
2 slot pants = 10% (17% if ....)
4 God boots = 10% (20% for WT or Mansion boots)
Secret Solver Epi = 10%
2 slot wristbands = 10%
2 different relics add 5% each = possible 10%
Cash shop trigram adds 10%

I feel like I'm leaving something out...it's been a while, but if you max all that you get 147% speed boost.

It is relatively easy to get around 70-80% which will make you faster than most people in PvP. I recently read another great nuker guide on the main forum by Amethyst. It is probably better mine that you've read here to be honest. It's more of a semi-fast, defense heavy nuker build. It's quite good.

[dhrddm]

you're back !?!
With a little help, you can get the Shen Mo epi for the 20%

[K!ller]

The new decos, you mean the cash item decos? :(

[Uncle.Buck]

The new decos, you mean the cash item decos? :(

Yup, the ones you need coinz to get. Also, anything you put in the slots on those clothes disappears when the clothes do.:eek:

[umvirusalert]

I have heard that the defensive nuker build is the way forward now because of the new mobs which are fast and have a ranged attack. But speed is the recomended build until around FCish.

[dhrddm]

[QUOTE=boilerroomjat;16654]kk thanks...never missed on orange...red not that often...QUOTE]
LOL
I was in the SF clan base yesterday with my little RL7 nuker (Shao Yu-Lang epi that gives me +3% chi kung AR). I had ~210 WIS and for fun i attacked some Zombies (LS12). guess what?
I MISSED ONCE!!!!:eek:
I was stuned (figured speech)...

[K!ller]

I have heard that the defensive nuker build is the way forward now because of the new mobs which are fast and have a ranged attack. But speed is the recomended build until around FCish.

Defensive build? How? Elaborate? :P


Oh and future or current nukers, here's an economy guide :
http://www.9dragonsforum.com/showthread.php?t=4876&highlight=nuker

[umvirusalert]

Im not really sure but im guessing with relics etc that increase your defence...?

[K!ller]

Im not really sure but im guessing with relics etc that increase your defence...?

Umm, say I have 8 200 def trinkets. Thatd give me only 1600 def. So then no wis relics? or are wis relics for PvP? Hm...

[umvirusalert]

I have no idea :s try to look something up later...

[Wazza]

With no hybrid or healer buffs at SM12 my nuker has 770 Defence. Once I get GB I can use 2 60 defence relics and maybe the defence trinket will drop for me one day. That would give me 1090 defence + hybrid buff (90) + healer buff (150) and tweaking my relics ( take out wisdom for PVP) I should be able to make around 1500 Defence with only about 16 points in Strength.

Enough to take a few hits but certainly not a tank :)

[Blade]

Really nice guide! Really appreciated since I wanted a character that could throw away magic through his bare hands! I'm going for Exorcist Monk then!

[new]

i'm rc7 and i only do 3k damages is there somthing wrong:confused:, if yes only tell me if i should do another character

i have no special buffs

ps. i know it's a dumb question but when i saw peaple going crazy becos they were doing 7k damage i almost got a heart attack:eek:

[K!ller]

Uh, take a screenshot of your characters attributes, as well as the chengs of your spells.

I did around 3k damage at OC5... I think... I mean, I do around 5k damage if it's a bad hit, at about a monster 50 levels higher than me.... I'm not sure...

[new]

i'm playing now and i can see:

str:8
ess:75
wis:119
con:18
dex:8

both slow and para cheng 7
thanks for reply

[K!ller]

Your problem is the 75 essence. You need more wisdom. Do a restat and get more Wisdom. I had my slow at cheng 10 at OC5, so level that up.

Im RL5 and these are my stats:
Str: 12
Ess: 41
Wis: 189
Con: 14
Dex: 12

[new]

thanks:D but i will restart and follow this guid now that i know it

[K!ller]

You dont have to restart, just restat at clan base. RESTAT not RESTART.

Like, you get to distribute your chi points again.

[em0ti0n]

if restart to redistribute chi points, will the nukes cheng goes back to 1?
coz my para at 10 and slow at 9

[K!ller]

No they wont, not if you choose the same role.

[em0ti0n]

oh.. thats good to hear..

[Redcomet]

Hi there, I have used this thread tons of times. Never posted on it though. I have LOVED it. But now I have a problem...
I'm RC7 and I'm only dealing 3.4kish damage on my "normal" hit and 5.1-2k on my crits.
Is it because my wis buff is only level 2? My wis and defense buff are only level 2 and HP is level 3.
Stats:
str:9+1
ess:38+1
wis:169+1
con:14+1
dex:10+1

Training on drunken swordsmen.

[johnywalker]

my stat: 12 str
40 ess
100 wis
20 con
12 dex
LVL: OC7

i try to solo the high lvl but they deal more dmg after lvl 30. So i should add more into str to increase my def or leave it at 12 and dex too for hit. All the 9 dragon amor doesnt have require lvl, im confusing about it, what should i wear, wan daye armor is at what lvl and after wan daye which one next? I only have 400k, how to make more money? How ppl earn so much money? sorry for so many question. PLease help me, Thankyou.

[mattsawler]

This is great, I'll be using the tips myself in the near future(as soon as I can his OC1).

[Wazza]

my stat: 12 str
40 ess
100 wis
20 con
12 dex
LVL: OC7

i try to solo the high lvl but they deal more dmg after lvl 30. So i should add more into str to increase my def or leave it at 12 and dex too for hit. All the 9 dragon amor doesnt have require lvl, im confusing about it, what should i wear, wan daye armor is at what lvl and after wan daye which one next? I only have 400k, how to make more money? How ppl earn so much money? sorry for so many question. PLease help me, Thankyou.

Each 2 points in STR will only give you 6 additional Defence. So thats 12 more every level so not your best option. Just kep pumping wisdom from now on until it is max with the occasional point in Ess. Put no more in CON for the same reason you don't need to increase your defence - You are a nuker so the plan is to not get hit!:p

Find armour that has slots and put speed ornaments in them. With 400 k you can probably buy 3 slot clothing from the vendor enough times until you get slotted ones but may not be a great option yet as it will leave you broke.

Wan Daye is weapons not armour. With only 400k you cant afford it but the speed is the real bonus in them for nukers so save up sell some BE's and get the speed clothing.

[Wazza]

Hi there, I have used this thread tons of times. Never posted on it though. I have LOVED it. But now I have a problem...
I'm RC7 and I'm only dealing 3.4kish damage on my "normal" hit and 5.1-2k on my crits.
Is it because my wis buff is only level 2? My wis and defense buff are only level 2 and HP is level 3.
Stats:
str:9+1
ess:38+1
wis:169+1
con:14+1
dex:10+1

Training on drunken swordsmen.

Unsure what cheng your skills are at but just concentrate on the slow nuke for now until you get to FD1 where you get a much better bleed and an instant slow nuke. Your stats seem fine but you need to concentrate on your self buffs. Even without ket jamming it's pretty easy to get them to cheng 6 with manuals and xp events.

Also get some more level one elixers as you should be able to max them pretty easy (+2).

[Redcomet]

Thanks wazzy. I've started training my wisdom/hp/def buffs, RC10 now. So far they're at cheng 6.

[davvvid]

Cool.

[scud20]

really cool

[rodra]

This is a really cool guide and easy to undestand i have never played with a nuker but i think i will try one just to see

[Zehul]

Very nice guide. I planned on making a nuke for this character and this really helps.

[demetrious79]

nice guide... tnx!

[evaska]

No they wont, not if you choose the same role.

Are you absolutely sure? I would do with pointr redistributed on my healer- but do not want to get my buffs reseted!

Must say that this guide is fantastic!
Just couple noob questions:
What are sloted clothes?
Where one can obtain Wan Daye braces?

[Wazza]

Are you absolutely sure? I would do with pointr redistributed on my healer- but do not want to get my buffs reseted!

Must say that this guide is fantastic!
Just couple noob questions:
What are sloted clothes?
Where one can obtain Wan Daye braces?

!00% sure if you chose the same role you keep all your buffs etc

Clothes that allow you to put a relic (speed normally) in them. Thay have a slot or two at the bottom which shows up like an empty square.

WD weapons come up in your collectibles once you reach a certain level. They start at RL and go up to EC as far as I know. You ned to trade elixers (non dungeon ones) and BE for them.

[kyle]

is the slow OC one demons palm of darkness or something like that for HD

[tranda93]

Hi i made yesterday a wu tang black tortoise and i went to the spawn to lvl and i observed that my max dmg with my 2 spells is 600k and when i crit i give 1k it is normal to happen this to oc1 ? or should i just keep lvling my spells ?

My Build Is:Str 12
Ess 20
Wins 97
Con 12
Dex 12

[dusper4]

awesome!!!!! nukes kick ars!!!

[EVIL]

nukers are the best!! highest damage in 1-hit. very cool animation, and also kill alot of red mobs without worrying or dieing.

[xXx_s0uLmAsTeR_xXx]

i got a ec1 shao nuker and i just wanna know from a pro nuker if the build is ok

STR:16
ESS:89
WIS:250
CONS:56
DEX:35


P.S: I Need a build for Fc1 , can some1 help me out with it ?

[marmelo97]

i got a ec1 shao nuker and i just wanna know from a pro nuker if the build is ok

STR:16
ESS:89
WIS:250
CONS:56
DEX:35


P.S: I Need a build for Fc1 , can some1 help me out with it ?

im training nuke too and i dunno too what stats i should put

[Prince Arren]

Great Guide.... but i just wish to know if the guide is still valid... I mean its 3 years now... and there mite be new techniques introduced too.

Just asking.. I am still a newbie.. though my first chr is a warrior I am planning to have a shao nuker.

Plz help

[kamaretsu]

can some1 explain me this? i cant understand what is LS2 or OC1 or FD wth are that?